Guide #105: Ys: The Vanished Omens (Sega Master System) and Ys Book I & II (Book I) (Turbo CD/Duo): Changes Guide V1.0 (1/14/99) (First and probably last release; Details the changes between the two games mentioned at the top of this guide) By "Emptyeye" (emptyeye@juno.com) This guide can be found at www.gamefaqs.com This Guide isn't as organized as some of my others, but it basically encompasses the following: Intro/Confession Name Differences Gameplay Differences Outro/Legal Stuff Intro/Confession Well hello! Because I have played through both of these games, and because I really don't feel like studying for my exams tonight, I put together this guide detailing the differences I could find between the two. While not really a walkthrough per se, I feel it can help explain some of the differences with names of the characters and such. Now the confession. I played through the Sega version of the game on a *gasp!* emulator. BUT IT WAS LEGAL! Yeah I know, whoever heard of a person LEGALLY using an emulator?! Basically I'm borrowing my cousin's copy of Ys for the Sega, and am too lazy to hook up his Master System to a TV. So it's not quite truly legal, as I don't own the game. But hey, at least I'm not using it to write say, a Pokemon Gold/Silver Guide.... (NOTE: I WILL spoil some of the games, mainly plot events and such. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!) Name Changes Let's get these out of the way first. Basically, the way I'll do this is I'll put the Sega Master System version of the name in the left column (As it was released first), and the TurboDuo version in the right column. I'll then put a star next to whatever version the Ys Community seems to have deemed "Correct". If there's no star it means I've never seen true evidence one way or the other. NOTE: A lot of times, I've noticed, the differences are quite similar; Examples being substituting Ls for Rs, Cs for Ks, and As for Us. Would anyone fluent in the Japanese Language care to inform me why this is so (I thought I heard one time that the Oriental languages didn't have some letters. I could be wrong though)? (These aren't in any particular order by the way) SMS Version Duo Version People: Aron (Last name never given) Adol Christian * Reah Lair * Dark Dekt (Or Dulk Dekt as they call him in Dark Fact * the game itself) Luther Jema Luta Gemma * Dabby (Name of one of the books) Dabbie * Dogi * Colin Jeba Tova Jeva Toba * Items: Key to the Doomed Darm Key * Rod * Brooch Golden Pedestal Golden Vase Tarwarl Katana Monocle Glasses Ring Mail Armor Ring Places: Zepik Village Zeptic Village Palace Shrine * Tower of the Doomed Darm Tower * Gameplay Differences While it may not seem obvious at first, there are numerous gameplay differences between the two games. Here I'll detail some of those. Using Items: You can't use items in your Inventory in the SMS version. The items that would be in your Inventory in the Duo version are just put into your Equipment section in the SMS version. Also note that is the SMS version there IS no Inventory Screen selectable from the main menu. It's the second screen of Equipment you see. Fighting Enemies: In both versions, you fought enemies by simply crashing into them. However, in the Duo version, you could crash head on into an enemy and, in all likelihood, win the battle. In the SMS version you have to run into the "edge" of an enemy, or you'll most likely die, at least in the early part of the game. Gaining Experience: This is an easy one. In the SMS version, you d[o]n't get your EXP per enemy cut in half each time you raise a level. Of course you only gain 10 levels in the entire game, as opposed to the 62 you gain in the Duo version (NOTE: Since the Duo version spans two games, you'll probably only get to about 35/36 on Book I of that version). As such, in the SMS version your status gains are much larger. Your EXP to level also doubles with each gain, as opposed to it going up MUCH more gradually in the Duo Version. Item Difference[s] (Finding [t]hem): The Gold Vase/Pedestal: While it's found in the same general area--a pond near Minea Town--in the Duo version you find it in the indentation on the north side of the pond. In the SMS version you have to search the space on the EAST side of the pond. Prison/Chest Keys: In the Duo Version, you find the Prison Key in the Shrine Depths/Palace. You then use it to rescue Feena, who gives you the Treaure Box Key. In the SMS version on the other hand, you find the Treasure Box Key BEFORE the Prison Key. You use the Treasure Box key to unlock the Chest containing the Prison Key, THEN go rescue Feena. Dungeon Differences: Besides the ones mentioned above, you'l[l] notice that the dungeons seem to have be[e]n "Mirror Imaged" from the SMS version to the Duo one. All the major features seem to be there--mirror mazes in the Tower of the Dommed/Darm Tower, etc--but they seem to have "Flipped". While this is more [o]r less the case, it's not entirely true--see the seco[n]d mirror maze as an example. Using Items Part 2: Different Functions? The only real difference here I can think of is the Evil Ring. In the Duo Version, if you Equip it and do not have the Blue Ne[c]klace, you lose HP by multiples of 10 until you die. If you try this in the SMS version, it results in INSTANT death. Not fun. Oh yeah! The Mask of Eyes: In the SMS version you can't see the outlines of the doors that you need the Mask to get through. This basically means that you have to waltz around with the Mask of Eyes on until you find a doorway that wasn't there before. Not fun. [P]lot Differences: The only thing, again, that I can think of, is the fate of Sara. In the Duo version, you never actually LEARN what happens to her, only that she was "Kidnapped" ([Y]ou get a letter from her in her shop, and one of the villagers lets you know about this.). In the SMS version, you learn from a man inside her shop that she was murdered. Fighting Bosses: In the SMS version, most of the bosses are more difficult to defeat than their Duo counterparts, in spite of having the same attacks. This is most apparent when fighting Dark Dekt/Fact. In the Duo version, he's something of a wuss if you get to level 36 or above. In the SMS version, he's a freaking monster! He moves slower, and it takes longer for a piece of the platform to fall out from under you. Also, his fireballs don't hurt you nearly as much as they do in the Duo version. So why's it harder? Because even IF you have the Silver Equipment on, he can take A LOT more damage than in the Duo version. This means that there will be a lot more holes in the platform. Also, wheras in the Duo version if you happen to get caught off the platform when it falls out from under you, merely trapping you in place (Which will soon lead to your death anyway), getting caught off the platform in the SMS version will, again, lead to INSTANT death (Which actually makes more sense). The one exception to this (Bosses more difficult in the SMS version) is Heady, because there is a MUCH more forgiving ratio of you giving out damage to receiving it in the SMS version. Outro/Legal Stuff *Looks back at guide* Wow, Mrs. Stemmer (My English teacher) is right.. I have no organizational skills whatsoever! Oh well, It's my hope that you have been reading this guide merely for your enjoyment, looking for differences between the two games. If so, I believe I have accomplished this purpose. If I missed anything, feel free to E-mail me at the addy listed at the top of the page. Later... -Marc This guide is Copyright 2000 by "Emptyeye". 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