5/24/99 --Questions/Comments?-- I'm Dave and this is my e-mail: xo_pitseleh@hotmail.com Romancing SaGa 2 Information Molehill Version Gemini: 5/24/99 -added more info on how to get various characters -more info on Avalon improvements -updated "Things I Haven't Figured Out" section -basically, things are a little bit more accurate all around Version Aries: 4/16/99 -Original Version ===================================================================== OK. In here you're gonna find my first attempt at including Japanese lettering in a FAQ. I've tried to keep the Japanese text to a minimum because quite frankly, it scares me and because I want to keep this thing friendly to those who want to play the game but don't know Japanese. I got my Japanese viewer from www.njstar.com so you might try there if you want to view the Japanese. Oh and I had a little trouble with entering some of the Japanese so I just wrote in English on those parts but it shouldn't be a problem. I. Important People/Things in Avalon II. *Some* Places III. General Gameplay Q & A IV. Specific Q & A V. Things I Haven't Figured Out ********************************************************************** I. Important People/Things in Avalon ********************************************************************** ------------------ |The General Idea| ------------------ You are the Emperor of Avalon, a castle in the top left corner of the world map. You begin as King Leon and will play as various heirs of his down through the years. Leon will hand over his kingdom (and his abilities) to his son, Gellard. At the end of Gellard's generation and onwards, you will be able to choose your successor and pass on your abilities to them. At the end of each generation you will be given a choice of 4 heirs and who they are will be based on--as far as I can tell--a combination of chance and anyone who you've helped or fought along side with in a past generation. -TREASURER- in the throne room, tells you how much money you have in your castle treasury. This may seem like a lot but paying for the development of new equipment, magics, and services in Avalon will really take a bite out of your funds. He will also fill you up with walking around money if you need it. -ACCOUNTANT- in the same room as the treasurer, he tells you how much money you collect per battle. When you gain more areas on the map, the amount will increase. -CHANCELLOR- in the bottom right of the throne room, tells you what problems you need to fix in the world and where to fix them. Fixing the problems he gives you will help you to move on to the next generation. He doesn't always have something for you to do, though, but when he does, try to see if you can recognize any town/place names in order to find out what he wants you to do. -THE FIGHTERS- these are the default characters that you can have join you. They aren't the best but they are all you have early in the game. As you get farther into the game you'll get other characters which specialize or have immunities in areas The Fighters do not. -FORMATION SOLDIERS- these guys will demonstrate any battle formations you happen to know and will collaborate with you to develop new formations. If the heir you choose knows a formation then you should talk to these guys. -WAZA SOLDIERS- these guys don't appear until after Gellard's generation ends. Any waza you learned in a past generation will be made available to any group member here. It's important to try to have each character learn as many waza as possible for their weapon before ending a generation so that the waza becomes available to all in the next generation. -BLACKSMITHS- the one on the left will make you a weapon and the one on the right an armor. Check back with them after you've fought a few battles. Once they've made something for you it will be made available in stores in the next generation at a much lower price than what it cost to make. -MAGES- you'll find them at the Magic Center once you've paid to have it built. Your choice of magics will increase when you gain higher magic levels. If, say, someone in your group has a high level in Wind Magic then more Wind Magics will be made available to your group. Also, a higher magic level affects the beginning level for that magic when you give it to other characters. For example: if one of my characters has Wind Magic at level 30 and I decide to give Wind Magic to another character then he/she/it will start with maybe about level 15 Wind Magic. Good deal. -STORAGE- this is where you can toss anything you might need later. When you start a new generation, any equipment you group was wearing will be found here. Also, healing items are stored here and will increase over generations. I'm not sure about this but I think that anything you toss in your trash will end up in storage. -THE THRONE- sitting here will sometimes allow you the option to pay for improvements and additions to Avalon. I'm not sure what exactly triggers this but you definatly want to pay for these if you get the chance so make sure you have enough money when you sit down. ********************************************************************** II. *Some* Places ********************************************************************** ¥Ð¥ì¥ó¥Ì (Brenu Area) ¥¦¥ª¥Ã¥Á¥Þ¥ó¤ÎÁã (Watch Monster Nest) ¥´¥Ö¥ê¥ó¤ÎCave (Goblin Cave) ¥½¡¼¥â¥ó (Sormon) ¥¢¥Ð¥í¥ó (Avalon) Éõ°õ¤ÎÃÏ (Sealed Earth) ============================ Æî¥Ð¥ì¥ó¥Ì (South Brenu Area) ¥ß¥é¥Þ¡¼ (Miramar) ¥Ë¡¼¥Ù¥ë (Nirbell) ΤÎCave (Dragon Cave) ¥â¥ó¥¹¥¿¡¼¤ÎÁã (Monster Nest) ============================ ¥«¥ó¥Ð¡¼¥é¥ó¥É (Cumberland Area) ¥µ¥¤¥Õ¥ì¡¼¥È¤ÎºÖ (Saifreeto's Stronghold) ¥À¥°¥é¥¹ (Douglas) ¥Õ¥©¡¼¥Õ¥¡¡¼ (Foofay) ¥Í¥é¥Ã¥¯¾ë (Nerack Castle) ============================ ¥ë¥É¥ó (Ludon Area) ¥ë¥É¥ó¹âÀÐ (Ludon Pass) ¥Æ¥£¥Õ¥¡¡¼¥ë (Tifaru) ÊõÀйۻ³ (Jewel Mine) ¥Ï¥ê¥¢È¾Åç (Haria Peninsula) ============================ ¥í¥ó¥®¥Ã¥È (Rongit Area) ¥Ì¥ª¥Î (Nuono) ¥â¡¼¥Ù¥ë¥à (Morbelum) Messhina¹Û»³ (Meshna Mine) ============================ ¥Ê¥¼¡¼¥ë (Nazeel Area) ¥à¡¼¤ÎÅßÃÏ (Moo Winter Grazing Spot) »Ò¡¤È»Ò¥à¡¼ (Child and Baby Moo Place) Æî¤Î¥À¥ó¥¸¥ç¥ó (South Dungeon) Åì¤Î¥À¥ó¥¸¥ç¥ó (East Dungeon) ¥µ¥¤¥´Â²¤Î¼ (Saigo Family's Village) »í¿Í¤Î¤É¤¦¤¯¤Ä (Bard's Cave) ============================ Æî¥í¥ó¥®¥Ã¥È (South Rongit Area) ¥È¥Ð (Toba) ¥Þ¡¼¥á¥¤¥É (Mermaid) Ëâ½÷¤Î¤Û¤³¤é (Witch's Den) ============================ ¥á¥ë¡¼º½Çù (Melu Desert Area) ¥Æ¥ì¥ë¥Æ¥Ð (Terelutva) ¥Ó¥Ï¥é (Bihara) ============================ ¥µ¥Ð¥ó¥Ê (Savana Area) Æî¤Î½¸Íî (South Village) À¾¤Î½¸Íî (West Village) ============================ ¥¹¥Æ¥Ã¥× (Steppes Area) ¥Þ¥¤¥ë¥º (Miles) ¥ï¥¤¥ê¥ó¥¸Ð (Whyling Lake) ============================ ¥µ¥é¥Þ¥Ã¥È (Salamat Area) ¥¢¥Þ¥¾¥Í¥¹¤Î¼ (Amazon Village) ¥¨¥¤¥ë¥Í¥Ã¥× (Ailunep) ¥à¥ê¥¨ (Mulie) ============================ ¥³¥à¥ë¥ó (Komuloon Area) ¥³¥à¥ë¥ó²Ð»³ (Komuloon Volcano) ¥Ä¥­¥¸¥Þ (Skijima) ¥¼¥ß¥ª (Zemio) ËâÆ»»Î¤ÎºÖ (Sorceror's Stronghold) Uasoshima (Resurfaced Island) ============================ ¥æ¥¦¥ä¥ó (Yu Yan) ¥Á¥ç¥ó¥È¥¦¤Î¾ë (Chon Tou Castle) ¥ê¥ã¥óShyan (Li Yan Shan) ¥Á¥«¥Ñ»³ (Chikapa Mountain) ********************************************************************** III. General Gameplay Q & A ********************************************************************** Q1: Why are some areas highlighted on my world map and others not? A1: Once you solve an area's problem, the area will be lit up on your world map. This means that the area is now part of your kingdom. Gaining new areas means that: 1) you get more money added to your treasury after a battle 2) money for weapon/armor purchases in that area will come straight out of Avalon's treasury rather than your personal walking around money. Sometimes. 3) travel is made easier as you can now just go to your world map and click on a highlighted area to get to that area. No more traveling through deserts, jungles, or taking boat rides. 4) usually a new character from that area will want to join your group. Q2: For the record, who are the 7 Noblemen? A2: -Kuzinshi- ugly, floating undead creature with a big sword -Soobiay- half man, half octopus -Bokoon- a skinny wizard holding little marionettes -Rock Bouquet- blue-haried woman surrounded by floating skulls -Dantarg- half man, half elephant or horse (I'm not sure) -Noel- a man with spikey hair and sword -Wagnas- floating head and chest of woman with wings and halo Q3: How do I restore LP? A3: As far as I know, the only way to restore LP is to buy a potion from the Witch's Den at 10,000 crowns a pop. Q4: How do I learn new battle formations? A4: You must choose, as your heir, one of these characters and then talk to the Battle Formation Guards in Avalon Castle: 1) The Tactician (pass the quiz in Avalon University then leave and come back) 2) The East Guard (in Li Yan Shan) 3) The Holy Order M/F (in Nerack Castle and Foofay. See Question 14) 4) The Amazoness (in Ailunep after defeating Rock Bouquet or, if you're female, she'll join you in the Amazon Village) 5) The Hunter (in South Village after defeating the Queen Ant) 6) The Nomad M/F (in Nomad Village, after defeating Bokoon) 7) Merchant Marine (In Nuono. See Question 20) 8) The Moo Herder (Moo Winter Grazing Spot after killing lizard in South Cave) 9) Fist Fighter (in Dragon Cave, after killing the slime in Monster Nest) 10) The City Thief M/F (in Gellard's generation, sleep in your bed and then go into the fire place in the weapons shop. Help the Thief then go to the pub and ask about a "Cat". Now go see the man in the grave yard) 11) The Ocean Woman (in Toba after killing Garion's ghost in the sunken ship) 12) The Desert Guard (in Terelutva after defeating Noel or getting him to remove the monsters in Terelutva) Q5: Are there other characters besides these? A5: There are some non-humans: 1) The Salamander (in Komulune after fighting the lava flow) 2) The Nerid (in Aqua Lake inside Ludon Pass after giving her the Moonlight Comb) 3) The Mole (in Mole Village underneath South Village after killing Queen Ant) 4) The Iris (play the Bard's Song at Chikapa Mountain) 5) Copperia (in Sormon at the Professor's house later in the game) Q6: I sat on the throne and my Chancellor asked me for money. Should I pay him? A6: Yes. He's asking for money to add improvements to Avalon. Improvements I've seen are: 1) Avalon University (1 million) 2) Magic Center (2 million) need high enough magic level 3) Hire Imperial Guards (300 thousand) 4) Hero District (5 million) 5) others??? ********************************************************************** IV. Specific Q & A ********************************************************************** Q7: Where do I get the Bard's Instruments? A7: After talking to the barkeep at Yu Yan, most of these instruments should appear in these places: Bard's Conga---Mole Village underneath South Village Bard's Guitar--in Zemio Bard's Faggot--in Nuono when chasing after Giaron (is this supposed to be a drumstick?) Bard's Flute---Bard's Cave (kid in the Saigo Family's Village will tell you the location of the cave) Bard's Horn----the Avalon Inn Q8: How do I get the Fishman Medicine? A8: Hoo boy. This took me forever to figure out. OK. First off, the Emperor you are currently playing as must be male. Go to the town called Mermaid and talk to everybody until they all disappear. Go into the bar and watch the mysterious girl dance. When done dancing, talk to everyone in the bar. Leave the bar and talk to everyone until they disappear again. Go into the bar, watch some more dancing, talk to everyone, leave the bar, talk to everyone until they all disappear, go into the bar. This third time, however, you'll dance with the girl and she'll run out the back door. Follow her and splash! she's a mermaid. But no! It's not that easy. She disappears and you must now go see the Witch in the cave outside the town and ask her about the "Fishman Medicine". She'll tell you that you need 3 ingrediants: 1) a "Seagull's Nest" (in the town of Toba) 2) an "Eggshell" (on the Savana plains; ask the Hunter in the South Village about it first) 3) "Aqua Lake Water" (from Aqua Lake in Ludon Pass) However, the Nerid at Aqua Lake won't let you have the Aqua Lake Water until you bring her the "Moonlight Comb" To get the Moonlight Comb, go to the South Village on the Savana plains and after talking to everyone, stay the night. While sleeping some ants invade the village so jump inside the ant hole. Work your way to the Queen and beat her up. Talk to the mole people you saw on the way to the Queen and one of them will offer to make you a Moonlight Comb but you'll have to provide him with a lot of moonlight. He'll give you the "Mole Spitoon" to catch some moonlight. Stay the night at the Avalon Inn a whole bunch of times and then go talk to the mole. If you have 10,000 crowns and enough moonlight then he'll give you the Moonlight Comb. Go back to Aqua Lake and the nerid will give you the Aqua Lake Water (she'll join you now, btw) Now you can go back to the Witch and she'll give you the Fishman Medicine for 10,000 crowns. Q9: So what do I do with the Fishman Medicine? A: If you go back to where you saw the mermaid in the town of Mermaid you can jump in the water and talk to her. You can only jump in three times, though. After that, talking to the mermaid will end your generation. Also, later in the game you can use the medicine to get to Giaron's sunken ship. It might have another use though. Q9: How do I get the Fist Fighter to join? A9: Go talk to him and he will ask you to do something for him. Outside, the Monster Nest will appear. Go inside and kill the slime guarding the door. Leave and go talk to the Fist Fighter and he'll be really happy that you beat the slime (Martial Arts suck against slimes) and he'll run out the door. Go back to the cave and watch him stomp the demon that the slime was guarding. If you kill the demon yourself, the Fist Fighter will be pissed and never join you. Q10: How do I get the Salamander to join? A10: This is how I got the Salamander to join but I'm pretty sure it's not the best way. First, I talked to a man in Mulie and he told me about a Stone Boat he saw behind a bush outside the Amazoness Village. I went and got the Stone Boat and sailed from Mulie to Skijima. I took the Stone Boat to Zemio and that let me cross the lava. Then I got the Ice Seed from the Sorcerer's Stronghold but I didn't use it to cool down Komulune Volcano. Instead, I came back after a few years and saw that Skijima was having earthquake problems. I had everyone evacuate Skijima and went and talked to the Salamander in Zemio and he gave me the Komulune Hammer. Now this is the weird part: if you go back to Skijima, Komulune Volcano will blow and Zemio will be toast but the Resurfaced Island will have appeared and you can get some goodies there. But I didn't want Zemio toasted so instead of going to Skijima I went straight to Komulune Volcano and fought the Lava Flow. After that, when I talked to a man in Skijima I gained the Komulune Area as part of my kingdom and was then able to get the Salamander to join. But, I really don't think I did things right because I didn't get the Resurfaced Island to appear and the Sorcerer was really mad at me. Q11: How do I get upstairs to the Sorcerer's bedroom? A11: Pay attention to how you walk between the two statues in the Sorcerer's Stronghold. Q12: How do I get to Wagnasu's Floating Castle? A12: There are 2 ways and I'm really not sure why that is. One way is to take the flying machine from the professor in Sormon. The other way is to have the Iris on Chukapa Mountain take you there. Q13: How do I get to Bokoon? A13: There's an easy way and a hard way. -HARD WAY- go to the Nomad Village and have the Nomad show you the Land Boat. Now go to Miles and talk to the blonde haired guy. Get yourself abducted and thrown on the Land Boat and fight your way to Bokoon. This is difficult because you'll have to do it all with no equipment. If you're going to do it this way, I suggest you have members that are good at Martial Arts and Magic. -EASY WAY- Have the Nomad show you the Land Boat. Now go talk to the Tactician at Avalon University. Now go talk to him at Foofay. Now go talk to him outside the Nomad Village. Now go ask the Nomad to show you the Land Boat again. Q14: What do I do in Cumberland? A14: Talk to King Harold in Douglas Castle. He'll want your advice on choosing an heir. Choose the young boy, Toma (3rd option). Harold will die and you should go find Toma. Talk to Toma and choose the 1st option. Now go talk to Sofia in Foofay. Now go to the tunnel in the Guard Wall in south cumberland. Plug it. Go talk to George then go to Douglas and hop in through the window. Find Toma and reconcile him with George. Now go to Saifreeto's Stronghold. Oh, and don't leave Cumberland Area at any time until you've deafeated Saifreeto. Q15: Foofay was invaded, and I'm stuck. A15: You messed up on the Cumberland scenario somewhere because this shouldn't happen. Check the fireplace in Foofay. Q16: How do I find Noel? A16: You'll find him at the temple in the Oasis. The people in Terelutva will complain that they are being bothered by the monsters in the towers. If you talk to Noel about it, he'll say he's sorry and make them leave. Later, if you kill Noel's sister, Rock Bouquet, he'll want to fight you. Q17: Where is the Oasis? A17: Every once in awhile when you're walking through the Melu Desert you'll see a little oasis. Sometimes when you walk over to it it will disappear but every so often it'll be the real thing. I usually have to find it about 5 times before it's the real thing. Q18: What in blazes! All my charaters suddenly have 1 LP left? A18: You probably are either wearing or have the Demon Stone Ring ËâÀФλØÎØ in your inventory. When this is the case and you sleep anywhere other than your bedroom in Avalon Castle you'll hear some spooky music and wake up with 1 less LP than you had before. So if, say, you're playing with the sound turned off because you're listening to your new PJ Harvey cd you may not notice anything unusual until you it's too late and you've saved several times. So where did you get it? You broke the Demon Stone in the Jewel Mine and traded it to a mole in the Mole Village for the Demon Stone Ring. Btw, if you put it on, you can't remove it as far as I know. Q19: What are your favorite items/characters/waza/etc? A19: Let's see...I'm rather partial to axes because they're powerful and it's fairly easy to learn waza for them. I also like martial arts because (I think) only slimes are resistent to them. My 2 favorite weapons are the Almghest Axe (its "Phantom Fighter" waza adds your Max HP to your current HP) and the Youtouryuukyo (its "Exorcism" waza is great for skeletons and zombies). "Yoyo" is a great waza that's powerful and cheap and I really like any waza that has a chance of instant kill especially "Final Letter" which has a high chance of killing most anything. Also, "No Light Sword" is incredibly powerful. As for characters, I like the Nerid because her decent speed and her Mellow Ring make her a reliable healer. I also like the Mole and Salamander because their armor gives them useful immunities. Q20: How do I get the Merchant Marine to join? A20: I think you might have to choose the thief as your heir. Then go to Morbelum and listen in on pirate's meeting. Now go to the tavern in Tifaru and ask about Haria Peninsula. Then talk to the sailor on the boat in Morbelum and choose the 2nd option. Go to Meshna Mine and kill the monster at the bottom. Talk to the sailor on the ship again. Walk around in that stuff until somebody says something. Now go top deck. Now go below deck. Now go top deck. Get off the ship and meet Enrique. Choose the 2nd option both times. Now go to Haria Peninsula and get into the pirate base. Talk to Enrique again and choose the 2nd option. Still, I don't know if this is the best way to do it. Q21: How do I get the thieves to join? (Am I the only person in the world who couldn't figure this out on their own?) Q21: In Gellard's generation, sleep in your bed and then go into the fire place in the weapons shop. Help the Thief and then go to the pub and ask about a "Cat". Now go see the man in the grave yard. The female thief will run off and will be waiting to help you in a storage room near the monster fortress. The Thieves will join you in the your next generation. Q22: What are the correct answers to the University Quiz? A22: I'm gonna let Qing handle this one. This portion of the guide is provided by Qing@a-znet.com Here is all the answers to the quiz at the Avalon University 1st question: 3rd choice 2nd question: 1st choice 3rd question: 2nd choice 4th question: 2nd choice 5th question: 1st choice 6th question: 2nd choice 7th question: 3rd choice 8th question: 3rd choice 9th question: 2nd choice 10th question - The 10th question is about the money you collect per a battle, so it may vary depends how big your KingDome is. So for this one you have pay close attention to the account in the palace. ********************************************************************** V. Things I Haven't Figured Out ********************************************************************** --Dark Magic -- I've never been able to find Dark Magic. I suspect it may be connected to the Ancient Tablet you find on the Resurfaced Island in Komulune Area but I gave it to one of the magicians at the magic center and I never saw it again. --The Resurfaced Island-- Can't seem to figure out how to get the island to show up without killing the Salamanders. Also, not sure what to do with the Ancient Tablet. --The Sailor in Foofay-- If your heir is the Merchant Marine, he'll ask you to navigate the straits of Komulune. Why would you want to do this? --The Demon Stone-- Are you just supposed to break it and take the pieces to the mole for that crappy ring? Or does the ring have a special use? --The Last Area-- There are a bunch of caves with a symbol in the middle of the floor. Perhaps if I could figure out what to do here, the last boss wouldn't be so damn nigh invincible. ===================================================================== ***************************** *Tootsie Pops all go out to:* ***************************** Khagi: for reappearing and giving me RS2 tips, and for helping with the magic list Paul and Qing: for your questions galore To everyone else that took the time to e-mail me with advice. There weren't very many of you and I appreciate your helpfulness. ====================================================================== Romancing SaGa 2 (C) Square 1993 ======================================================================